wyse_terminal_news.txt (Also Link terminals; Wyse Technologies bought out Link Technologies.) ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This mostly consists of archived messages not in any particular order. The very first question EVERYONE asks when first sitting down at a Wyse terminal is: How do I turn off the keyclick? Over the years, a variety of people have discussed this question in "comp.terminals". Here is one example.... ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!darwin.sura.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!cs.utexas.edu !math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu !purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu!wb9omc Message-ID: References: <24sh2t$9pk@babbage.ece.uc.edu> <6@fawlty.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:12:05 GMT From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) Subject: Re: Wyse50 key click and Wyse manuals wwg@fawlty.UUCP (Warren Gay) writes: >In article <24sh2t$9pk@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, > kg@myan.uc.edu (Ramaswamy G Krishnan) writes: > > > >Is there a way to turn off key-click in Wyse-50 terminal? > Of course! > > Keyclick OFF: ESC e $ > Keyclick ON: ESC e ' > I don't have a Wyse-50, but I suspect that you can disable it permanently > in its setup. > > Warren. > ncrcan.canada.ncr.ca!coutts!wwg@uunet.ca Indeed. You can toggle the keyclick with (control-) shift-enter. Once it is OFF (or on if desired) go into the setup mode and save the setup. The keyclick will be "saved" in whatever mode you left it in. Duane /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Once the clicking has ceased, the user next notices that "vi" is not working correctly. The lucky ones eventually discover that the problem is an incorrect termcap or terminfo entry supplied by the Unix vendor. The less perceptive users blame it on Rush Limbaugh. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: cs.utk.edu!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu !owens.slip.uiuc.edu!jbn Newsgroups: comp.terminals Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: References: Date: 7 Apr 94 00:37:54 GMT From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: Re: WYSE-50 doc needed: ESC-codes & jumper settings Keywords: WYSE-50 Jeroen van Herel writes: >I own a WYSE-50 monochrome terminal, but do not have the proper >documentation. Here's an incomplete but okay termcap entry: w9|wy50|wyse50|wyse 50|Wyse Technology WY-50:\ :am:bw:bc=^H:co#80:li#24:up=^K:do=0.5*^J:le=^H:ho=^^:nd=^L:cr=^M:\ :sf=^J:sr=\Ej:dl=\ER:dc=\EW:nw=^M^J:al=\EE:ce=\ET:cd=\EY:cl=5.5*\E*:\ :cm=\Ea%i%dR%dC:im=\Eq:ei=\Er:mi:ct=\E0:st=\E1:it#8:ta=^I:pt:bt=\EI:\ :so=\EG4:se=\EG0:sg#1:us=\EG8:ue=\EG0:ug#1:mr=\EG8:mb=\EG2:mh=\EGp:\ :mk=\EG1:mp=\E):is=100*\E`\072:rs=100*\E';:lq=F27:lr=F28:ls=F29:\ :vb=\E`8\EA04\EA00\E'9:bl=^G:vs=\E'1\E'5:vi=\E'0:ve=\E'1\E'5:lt=F30:\ :lu=F31:lv=F32:LO=\EA14:LF=\EA11:Nl#8:lw#9:ul:lh#1:ku=^K:kl=^H:kr=^L:\ :kd=^J:kh=^^:kb=^H:kC=\EY:kD=\EW:kL=\ER:kM=\Er:kI=\EQ:kA=\EE:kN=\EK:\ :kP=\EJ:ma=^Kj^Jk^Hh^Ll^^H:kE=\ET:kS=\EY:@8=\E7:%9=\EP:&3=\Er:nl=^J:\ :#2=\E{:#4=^H:%f=\EP:%i=^L:me=\E(\EG0:kn#32:k1=^A@^M:k2=^AA^M:*8=\EY:\ :k3=^AB^M:k4=^AC^M:k5=^AD^M:k6=^AE^M:k7=^AF^M:k8=^AG^M:k9=^AH^M:\ :k0=^AI^M:k;=^AJ^M:F1=^AK^M:F2=^AL^M:F3=^AM^M:F4=^AN^M:F5=^AO^M:\ :if=/usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.init:ic=\EQ:mi:ip=17*:\ :rf=/usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.reset: begin 660 wyse50.init F/&-L96%R('1A8G,^"CQS970@=&%B2`X(&-H87)S/@HA ` end begin 660 wyse50.reset M/'-E="!S8W)E96X@=&\@.#`@8V]L=6UN71H:6YG(&EN('1H92!I M;FET9FEL92`O=7-R+VQO8V%L+VQI8B]T86)S970O=WES934P+FEN:70^"CQC M;&5AF<46 or 100 character message> would need to be broken up into two parts: (for the 80-column Wyse-50 termcap entry) (for the equiv. terminfo entry) :hs:ws#46:ts=\EF:fs=^m: hs, fsl=46, tsl=\EF, fsl=^m (for the 132-column Wyse-50 termcap entry) (for the equiv. terminfo entry) :es@:ws#100:tc=wyse50: es@, fsl=100, use=wyse50 One problem is that programs will need to use the "fs=" capability immediately after sending the "ts=" entry and writing no more than 46 or 100 chars. This involves planning and using the termcap/terminfo database entries correctly. In my experience, getting most programmers to use the more common termcap and terminfo capabilities correctly is not easy, so getting them to use these capabilities correctly is probably going to be even tougher. Any program that puts more data than the status line can hold or thinks that the data should end with a carriage return (instead of a "fs=" definition, the two should be handled differently since the status line will only "absorb" one of them) is broken, the termcap/terminfo definition is fine. Notes: * The message can be 46 chars long if you're in 80-column mode or 100 chars long if you're in 132-column mode. * "es" (termcap and terminfo) means "can use other defined escapes on the status line" and "es@" negates "es". * "tc=" ("use=" in terminfo) means to include the termcap (terminfo) definition for another terminal MINUS the attributes defined up to that point. Termcap requires only one "tc=" and it must be at the end of the entry. Termcap also requires that the end result of chaining entries not be more than 1024 (1k) characters. Terminfo allows more than one "use=" entry to be given and makes no size restriction on the total length of the entry. ============================= There is another addressable area of the Wyse 50's status line (called the 'local message field' in the documentation) and a way to allow escape characters in the so-called 'host message field'. The catch is that the ENTIRE field has to have the same display attribute. That is, the 'local message field' and 'host message field' can have different attributes, but the entire 'local message field' must have the same attribute and the entire 'host message field' must have the same attribute. Using: A2 to change the local message field A3 to change the host message field Here's a list of display attribute codes: space code (20H) 0 normal 4 reverse 8 underscore 1 blank (no display) 5 reverse and blank 9 underscore & blank 2 blink 6 reverse and blink : underscore & blink 3 blank 7 reverse and blank ; underscore, blink & blank < underscore & reverse p dim = underscore, reverse & blank q dim & blank > underscore, reverse & blink r dim & blink ? underscore, reverse, blink & blank s dim & blank t dim & reverse x dim & underscore u dim, reverse & blank y dim, underscore & blank v dim, reverse & blink z dim, underscore & blink w dim, reverse & blank { dim, underscore, blink & blank | dim, underscore & reverse } dim, underscore, reverse & blank ~ dim, underscore, reverse & blink >If not, does anyone know how to extract such info from a terminfo file? You could decompile the terminfo entry or use the tput program. I'll describe the latter because I've just typed all this and I'm getting tired. By default, tput assumes that you are using the terminal type specified by the TERM variable. If you want to override the value of the TERM variable, use the -T option: $ tput -Twyse60 ...and so on... In general, you simply feed tput the name of the terminal attribute you want to know about. To output the terminal's "is3" (init string #3) capability: $ tput is3 This output can be stored in a variable as such: $ INITSTRING3=`tput is3` (note those are backticks or backward single quotes) >I can't seem to find a termcap entry that includes the required info Not suprising since the majority of termcap and terminfo definitions are substandard and incomplete with regard to features that aren't used very often (such as writing in the status line or using special keys). Even the definition in the "termcap & terminfo" book listed as a complete Wyse-50 entry is not complete. Even with that shortcoming, I highly recommend the book since it provides such enlightenment in termcap and terminfo creation and editing areas. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please) -- /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Once the termcap has been set correctly (or as nearly as possible), then the poor user must face the inherent quirks of the Wyse design: /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu !owens.slip.uiuc.edu!jbn Newsgroups: comp.terminals Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: References: <60.3448.2013.0N19E595@canrem.com> <2siesc$fgm@caslon.CS.Arizona.EDU> Date: 2 Jun 94 20:18:48 GMT From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: Re: What are the top ten popular terminals widely use scott@CS.Arizona.EDU (Scott E Gilbert) writes: > >The biggest problem I noticed with ascii terminals is the brain dead method >of setting attributes using ``magic cookies''. At least this has been my >experience using my Wyse-50 terminal. Under Unix, it messes up the output >on everything from manual pages to newsreaders. At one point, I used a >termcap entry that set all of the attribute sequences to the null string >just to avoid this. > >Also the screen flashes that it gave were annoying. (When an opening magic >cookie was dropped, but the closing one hadn't been yet). Usually I wouldn't quote all that, but my hint is relevant to it all. I'll give you (and the rest of the readership of this newsgroup) a hack that will fix the following problems: 1. flashing when turning on characteristics, 2. the surrounding "magic cookie" character at either side of the effected string and 3. 100% compatibility with properly written programs. Solutions: 1. Speed up the I/O rate to 38.4 kbps. The flash is still there, but it's so quick it becomes less annoying. WARNING: What follows is an ugly hack and should not be counted on or distributed as a properly-written termcap or terminfo file for the Wyse-50. 2. Instead of using the proper attributes for standout do this: a) go to the config menu and find the choice that lets you display "protected" chars another way. Select the way you prefer best. b) save the config. c) use protected chars for standout_on and standout_off (I think they're ESC-& and ESC-', but I'm doing this from memory, so don't quote me) d) be sure to redefine the clear sequence to clear to spaces (NOT clear to protected spaces, else that will make your screen clear to a reverse video screen). 3. Set the standout glitch factor to 0 since protected chars is an embedded characteristic on a Wyse-50. I've tried this and it works fine, but it's not perfect since protected chars are actually used for something other than this in other apps and this causes you to lose a valuable characteristic. I believe that the magic cookie way of storing characteristics was done because RAM was so expensive and it was cheaper to store the characteristic in the same memory address as a character. -- No NeXTmail please /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu !owens.slip.uiuc.edu!jbn From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: References: <2svt7h$126@panix3.panix.com> Reply-To: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Date: 7 Jun 1994 23:53:50 GMT Subject: Re: Wanted: Good termcap entry for Wyse50 terminal tlod@panix.com (Thede Loder) writes: > I have a wyse50 terminal. For basic usage, such as vi the termcap > entry we have now works ok. However, when using Pine or lynx, the > screen gets messy and doesn't properly highlight, underline, space, > etc. This sounds more like the Pine and lynx software is broken more than the termcap. Most programs (even modern ones written recently) don't bother checking on or using intelligent screen data placement algorithms with terminals that don't have embedded attributes. [See references on "sg" and "glitch" for details.] >The terminal itself can emulate ADDS ViewPoint, >HZ1500, tvi910, tvi920, and tvi925. None of these seem to work >correctly all of the time. Most likely the same problem as above. >Does anyone have a fully functional or more functional termcap entry? Well, there you're in a bit of a jam. There is no such thing as a perfect Wyse-50 termcap entry unless you're using GNU termcap (which allows arbitrarily long termcap entries). BSD 4.3's termcap simply doesn't allow the termcap entry to be long enough to properly describe the Wyse-50. Using terminfo, on the other hand, is quite adequate since (like GNU's termcap) it too allows arbitrarily long database entries. >Please respond via email if possible... I think on a group of this low content it is not too much to ask to come back here to get your response. Also, for every person that asks a question there is another that wanted to ask but didn't or won't have to because the question has already been answered. Since you didn't specify what termcap you're using, I'll give you the shorter one, the one that should work on all termcap-based systems (GNU or otherwise). I strongly urge you to use terminfo if at all possible, however. The switch will be well worth your while. # Wyse 50 termcap by J.B. Nicholson-Owens w9|wy50|wyse50|wyse 50|Wyse Technology WY-50:\ :am:bw:bc=^H:co#80:li#24:up=^K:do=0.5*^J:le=^H:ho=^^:nd=^L:cr=^M:\ :sf=^J:sr=\Ej:dl=\ER:dc=\EW:nw=^M^J:al=\EE:ce=\ET:cd=\EY:cl=5.5*\E*:\ :cm=\Ea%i%dR%dC:im=\Eq:ei=\Er:mi:ct=\E0:st=\E1:it#8:ta=^I:pt:bt=\EI:\ :so=\EG4:se=\EG0:sg#1:us=\EG8:ue=\EG0:ug#1:mr=\EG8:mb=\EG2:mh=\EGp:\ :mk=\EG1:mp=\E):is=100*\E`\072:rs=100*\E';:lq=F27:lr=F28:ls=F29:\ :vb=\E`8\EA04\EA00\E'9:bl=^G:vs=\E'1\E'5:vi=\E'0:ve=\E'1\E'5:lt=F30:\ :lu=F31:lv=F32:LO=\EA14:LF=\EA11:Nl#8:lw#9:ul:lh#1:ku=^K:kl=^H:kr=^L:\ :kd=^J:kh=^^:kb=^H:kC=\EY:kD=\EW:kL=\ER:kM=\Er:kI=\EQ:kA=\EE:kN=\EK:\ :kP=\EJ:ma=^Kj^Jk^Hh^Ll^^H:kE=\ET:kS=\EY:@8=\E7:%9=\EP:&3=\Er:nl=^J:\ :#2=\E{:#4=^H:%f=\EP:%i=^L:me=\E(\EG0:kn#32:k1=^A@^M:k2=^AA^M:*8=\EY:\ :k3=^AB^M:k4=^AC^M:k5=^AD^M:k6=^AE^M:k7=^AF^M:k8=^AG^M:k9=^AH^M:\ :k0=^AI^M:k;=^AJ^M:F1=^AK^M:F2=^AL^M:F3=^AM^M:F4=^AN^M:F5=^AO^M:\ :if=/usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.init:ic=\EQ:mi:ip=17*:\ :rf=/usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.reset: begin 644 /usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.init F/&-L96%R('1A8G,^"CQS970@=&%B2`X(&-H87)S/@HA ` end begin 644 /usr/local/lib/tabset/wyse50.reset M/'-E="!S8W)E96X@=&\@.#`@8V]L=6UN71H:6YG(&EN('1H92!I M;FET9FEL92`O=7-R+VQO8V%L+VQI8B]T86)S970O=WES934P+FEN:70^"CQC M;&5A Book Says Esc[A Esc[A Actual Code EscA Esc[A Book Says Esc[B Esc[B Actual Code EscB Esc[B Book Says Esc[C Esc[C Actual Code EscC Esc[C Book Says Esc[D Esc[D Actual Code EscD Esc[D --------------------------------------- Notice that the WY-185 terminal produces the CORRECT code. The WY-85 omits the "[" . Differences include all personalities, except VT-52, and it doesn't matter whether you have 7 or 8 bits selected. RESOLUTION: The solution for this problem will have to be a software solution, since the WY-185 terminal does the codes correctly, there will not be a hardware fix for this. One solution for UNIX/XENIX systems would be to change the termcap definitions to reflect the correct codes. Applications which are written for the WY-85 terminals will require modifications to the applications to work correctly. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com !transfer.stratus.com!xylogics.com!Xylogics.COM!carlson Newsgroups: comp.terminals Organization: Xylogics Incorporated Message-ID: <2g1g3g$l62@newhub.xylogics.com> References: Date: 31 Dec 1993 15:22:24 GMT From: carlson@Xylogics.COM (James Carlson) Subject: Re: Wyse-50 questions In article , jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: |> |> I have some questions about the Wyse-50 terminal: |> |> (1) On my Wyse-50, when I print a string with some underlined or |> inversed part in the middle, there are spaces inserted around the |> underlined or inversed area. For instance: |> |> TheBrownFoxJumpedOverTheFence becomes The BrownFox JumpedOverTheFence |> ^^^^^^^^ |> this part is underlined |> |> Why does this happen and is there something I can do to properly render |> the text? I have the feeling the terminal treats the inverse_on and |> inverse_off mode setting chars as spaces when printing, but I don't know |> why. There are two (major) types of attributes used in terminals -- character and embedded. Your terminal is using embedded attributes. These are special non- displaying characters which tell the display driver to begin doing a particular attribute following a screen location, until another attribute character is encountered. Since they take up screen memory, they have to take up display space, and are usually rendered as a blank. These attributes have the advantages that they can turn on and off blocks of attributes in a single operation (just overstrike the attribute location) and make the terminal cheaper to build. The other type, used by VT100-type terminals, are character attributes, which can be thought of as "wide" characters, where each screen position has extra bits to describe the attributes for each individual character. These have the advantage that you don't have to waste a screen position to change attributes, but require you to overstrike all of the characters in a string to reset the attributes and require more memory. If you have a VT emulation mode on that beast, use [m to set the character attributes. (If you're trying to do 3270 emulation, embedded attributes are exactly what you want, anyway, since the 3270 uses that type.) -- James Carlson Tel: +1 617 272 8140 Annex Software Support / Xylogics, Inc. +1 800 225 3317 53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: +1 617 272 3159 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!emory!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net !news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net !news1.digital.com!pa.dec.com!mrnews.mro.dec.com!hannah.enet.dec.com!hedberg From: hedberg@hannah.enet.dec.com (Bill Hedberg) Subject: Re: Need ADDS help Date: 10 APR 95 10:35:30 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3mbh8a$4in@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <3m4vhp$ju3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: raynal.enet.dec.com In article <3m4vhp$ju3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jedick@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey dick) writes... > >I use an ADDS terminal (I think the model is 2020) and I am attempting to >write a vt100/vt220 emulation for it. Everything works fine, except when >I try to change the character attributes (underline, reverse, etc.) >Before my terminal changes to the new attribute, it inserts a space that >causes the words on the screen to be shifted to the right and sometimes >off the edge. When I try to remove the inserted space, the new character >attribute becomes turned off as if it had never been sent in the first place. The "space" is probably an embedded attribute. This means that the terminal is interpreting the data stored in the "space" as attribute data. The attribute data applies to the characters following it. Deleting the "space" removes the attribute data. Embedded attributes is a trick for conserving memory. It came from a time when memory was "expensive" and tricks were needed to add features without adding to hardware cost. Non-embedded attributes use additional memory to record attributes. Although these scheme no longer has a significant impact on hardware cost, it is necessary to implement it in followon products for backwards compatibility. Embedded attributes are found in WY50 and a few other early terminals. VT family products (VT100/200/300/400/500) use non-embedded attributes. VT510/20/25 models implement embedded attributes in ASCII emulations. < rest of msg removed...> .............................................................................. Bill Hedberg Digital Equipment Corp. Video Architecture Engineering For more info call 1-800-777-4343 or e-mail terminals@digital.com http://www.digital.com ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/DEC/termcaps /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: utkcs2!ornl!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu !sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ais.org!dexter!jsr From: jsr@dexter.mi.org (Jay S. Rouman) Subject: Re: wyse 75 -- how do you turn off the keyclick? Message-ID: Organization: Private System, Mt. Pleasant, MI, USA References: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 11:36:14 GMT Lines: 10 In article , glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU (Adam Glass) writes: > >We've inherited a wyse 75 and it seems like a relatively cool terminal >with one really really annoying attribute. Basically it has some sort >of 'keyclick' turned on, and it is driving everybody crazy. We've CTRL-SHIFT-ENTER toggles the keyclick. Then go into setup mode and do a save to make this the power-on default. -- Jay Rouman (jsr@dexter.mi.org jsr@ais.org) /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu !qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu !anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu!hseung From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) Subject: Re: Keybindings for Wyse-75 Message-ID: <102634@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 18 Dec 92 20:17:22 GMT References: <9212182009.AA11352@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu> Organization: University of Pennsylvania I wrote: > My Wyse-75 terminal is scrolling lines pixel-by-pixel instead of in > raw chunks. This "smoothness" loses the connection sometime, because > it does not update in real-time. Unfortunately, the SetUp menu does > not have the "SCRL" field like other models. Is there a keybinding to > disable this feature? What is the tech support number for Wyse? > Any help is appreciated. Oops, I just discovered that I can control the scrolling speed by... Control-UP_ARROW Control-DOWN_ARROW Sorry for the disturbance. Hyunsuk Seung hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.sequent,comp.unix.bsd Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!concert!seq!futrell From: futrell@seq.uncwil.edu (andy futrell) Subject: RE: NEED TERMCAP entry for wy60 Message-ID: <1993Mar26.165131.16083@seq.uncwil.edu> Keywords: termcap terminfo Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 16:51:31 GMT Well, I got great response to my request for a wy60 termcap entry. So thanx to all! The best response though was, since I had a terminfo entry on my SYSV box, the infocmp command has a -C option that will dump the termcap entry from the terminfo lib. So, I guess it was another case of RTFM. Anyway, thanx much, I've got the wy60 entry added and it seems to be working great. andy futrell@seq.uncwil.edu /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!nntp.memst.edu!ukma!wupost!uunet!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate !dosgate![blair.groves@canrem.com] Subject: wyse terminal cursor key Message-ID: <1993Mar31.2013.2043@dosgate> From: "blair groves" Date: 31 Mar 93 22:06:36 EST Reply-To: "blair groves" Organization: Canada Remote Systems Edward Yagi wrote the following: -> At work, I have a true-blue wyse terminal. I dont know the model -> number, but what I would like to know is if there is a way to -> 'redefine' the cursor keys to send the 'correct' code so that pine -> can recognize them. Currently it sends incorrect keys like ^J and ^M -> and what-not. I heard taht you could 'bind' keycodes to keys? Some Wyse terminals will allow the cursor and other non-alpha-numeric keys to be redefined through the setup facility. An example of one of these is the Wyse 30. However, the Wyse 50, (a supposedly superior terminal), doesn't have this capability. Wyse terminals generally don't have the model number printed in any visible area on the front, but if you look for a silver-colored sticker on the back panel of the monitor housing. Somewhere on it, in fine print, you should see a designation for the model number. With the model number in hand, there is a better chance that someone here can tell you exactly what needs to be done, if this is possible on your Wyse model. blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario 416-629-7000/629-7044 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews !freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!ab773 From: ab773@Freenet.carleton.ca (Guy Cousineau) Subject: Re: WYSE 50 Message-ID: Organization: The National Capital Freenet References: <1993Jun22.014328.23069@edsi.plexus.COM> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 19:56:20 GMT Lines: 134 In a previous article, jdt@edsi.plexus.COM (John Thompson) says: > >I have an old WYSE 50 terminal (literally dug out of a dumpster, >but still working) and am wondering if the WYSE 50 emulation >setting is compatible with any of the DEC terminals -- I've I don't have a WYSE terminal, but I wrote an emulation overlay (blindly) for a friend of mine. He says it works great......: ; ; System Equates ; BDOS EQU 5 ;memory location of BDOS system call CONOUT EQU 2 ;BDOS function number for console output ; ESC EQU 1BH ;Ascii Escape character ; ORG 100H ;all programs start here ; JP START ;skip over terminal code to start of program ; ;ZCPR3 data area, do not change ; DB 'Z3ENV' DB 1 DW 0 DW 100H GOTORC: JP GORC ;jump to cursor addressing code COUT: JP COUT0 PRINT: JP PRINT0 ; ;sequence to turn inverse (or dim) video on ; IVON$: DB ESC,')',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string marker - do not change ; ;sequence to turn inverse (or dim) video off ; IVOFF$: DB ESC,'(',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string marker - do not change ; ;sequence to clear screen and home cursor ; CLEAR$: DB ESC,'*',0,0,0,0 DB 0,0,0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 12 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string marker - do not change ; ;sequence to clear from cursor to end of line ; CEOL$: DB ESC,'T',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string marker - do not change ; ;sequence to clear from cursor to end of screen ; CEOS$: DB ESC,'Y',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;sequence to turn cursor on ; CURON$: DB ESC,'`2',0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;sequence to turn cursor off ; CUROF$: DB ESC,'`0',0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;sequence to insert line ; INSLN$: DB ESC,'E',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;sequence to delete line ; DELLN$: DB ESC,'R',0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;terminal init sequence ; TINIT$: DB 0,0,0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;terminal deinit sequence ; DINIT$: DB 0,0,0,0,0,0 ;must be exactly 6 bytes - fill with 0 DB 0 ;end of string maker - do not change ; ;move the cursor to the row in D and the column in E ; GORC: LD A,ESC ;start escape sequence CALL COUT0 ;send to screen LD A,'=' ;no send goto command CALL COUT0 ;send it LD A,D ;row in A ADD A,' ' ;add offset CALL COUT0 ;send it LD A,E ;column in A ADD A,' ' ;add offset ;fall through to send it COUT0: ;send character in A to screen PUSH AF ;save all registers PUSH BC PUSH DE PUSH HL LD E,A ;put character in E as required by BDOS LD C,CONOUT ;function 2 CALL BDOS ;do it POP HL ;restore registers POP DE POP BC POP AF RET ; Other codes I have for WY-50 - untested - are: HOME ESC { ROW25 ON ESC } ROW25 OFF ESC e GOTO ROW25 ESC F GRAPHICS ON ESC H ^B GRAPHICS OFF ESC H ^C STORE SCREEN ESC K RECALL SCREEN ESC J CURSOR OFF ESC \ 0 CURSOR CHAR ESC \ char_value -- Guy Cousineau On FidoNet CPMTECH and ADAM echo Ottawa Canada Home RCPM (613) 829-6354 8N1 Proud ADAM owner! After 11 pm 300-2400 BPS ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ It also occurs that Wyse terminals can malfunction. Here follows some discussion on what to do. Within this web site, there is also a collected discussion of "repair hints" for several terminal brands. Wyse terminals figure prominantly in this discussion. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!tarpit!bilver!bill Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 21:52:59 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jul23.215259.8625@bilver.uucp> References: <7JUL199321223144@rosie.uh.edu> <1993Jul23.023808.27782@cs.wisc.edu> From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: what's a used WYSE-50 worth? In article <1993Jul23.023808.27782@cs.wisc.edu>, finton@barney.cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) writes: > >I have a used WYSE-50 which I'm going to try to get repaired >and sell. So I was wondering what it's worth. The screen is >in great shape, since I've been very careful with the dimmer >knob and the screen saver. But it seems to need a new flyback >transformer, which the local repair shop estimated at $75 - $85, >including labor. That's a better deal than most places would charge. >Can anyone tell me what the terminal would be worth once repaired? They go for about $150 - when sold with a 30 to 90 day guarantee. >While we're at it, can anyone tell me what a used Zenith Z-29 >would be worth? On the Wyse terminals, I have used a place called Automated Systems in Lincoln, Nebraska. Flat rate $75 repair on wyse 50's. If it's only a board problem, they do board repairs for a flat $50. Lots of places do this - and it's only a 5 minute (or less) job to pull the board from a 50. (don't have their number handy, but you might call 1-800 information for it) -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net !haven.umd.edu!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu !dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu!wb9omc From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) Subject: Re: what's a used WYSE-50 worth? Message-ID: Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <7JUL199321223144@rosie.uh.edu> <1993Jul23.023808.27782@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 17:08:58 GMT Lines: 61 finton@barney.cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) writes: > >I have a used WYSE-50 which I'm going to try to get repaired >and sell. So I was wondering what it's worth. The screen is >in great shape, since I've been very careful with the dimmer >knob and the screen saver. But it seems to need a new flyback >transformer, which the local repair shop estimated at $75 - $85, ^^^^^^^^^ Horse Hockey. A brand new MPS board (upon which the flyback is resident) will cost under $120 and takes about 10 to 15 minutes to install and adjust with a voltmeter. As long as your logic board is OK, said MPS board ought to last you at LEAST 3 years not counting lightning strikes. :-) >including labor. If they're going to charge you $75 and up to replace a flyback and labor, you're getting charged about 12 to 15 bucks for the flyback if they are getting them through the wyse-authorized parts centers. A good technician can replace this flyback in about 15 minutes. So if the charge is $75 and the flyback costs you $15, you're paying a $60 labor charge for 15 minutes of work, or approx. $240 per hour! >Can anyone tell me what the terminal would be worth once repaired? Given the above, if you get only the flyback replaced and the terminal is more than 3 years old, I wouldn't give you 10 bucks for it. Unfortunately the WYSE50 has an annoying tendancy to blow up MPS boards at anywhere between 3 1/2 years and 5 years of age. A "repaired" MPS board can last anywhere from 15 minutes to 6 months from what we've seen here. We have had a hard time finding a depot that WILL repair them, and warranty is either short or nonexistant in these cases. On the other hand, a good used wyse (that is, good logic board and good keybaord) with a brand new MPS board should bring you a fair piece of change providing you show the prospective buyer a receipt or other means of proving the board is new. We have nearly 300 WYSEs, mostly 50's in our organization. They all fail in annoyingly identical and predictable ways. If you buy the new MPS board, the biggest favor you can do yourself is to have your technician REMOVE C206 and replace it with a Nichicon HA series UHA1H4R7KRA capacitor, 4.7 microfarads at 50 volts non-polarized. This capacitor can handle around 7 AMPS of ripple current, and at high temperatures to boot. C206 failures on the MPS board are one of the biggest killers of WYSE50 terminals that WE have seen. If you cannot find a local vendor for this capacitor, try Jacques Ebert Associates in Locust Valley NY. You will pay several bucks for this capacitor, but we have not seen a single one fail YET after around 2 years of installing them. That beats the pants off of anything else we've tried, some of which don't last 3 weeks. The key is the spec on ripple current. Duane Supervisor of Terminal Repair Purdue University Engineering Computer Network wb9omc@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net !math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nwnexus!amc-gw!dsinet!jaws!daveb From: daveb@jaws (David Breneman) Subject: Re: WYSE TERMINAL BROKEN - NEED GOOD REFERENCE FOR REPAIR Message-ID: <2504@dsinet> Date: 27 Oct 93 14:44:15 GMT References: <29eq73$25v@titan.ucs.umass.edu> Organization: Digital Systems International, Redmond WA Lines: 31 Vera Britto (verab@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote: : Hello all - I have a WYSE terminal that broke (wyse -75) and I wanted a : reference of where I could send it to be repaired. Please tell me : of any positive experience you've had with repairs (or troubles : also). The first problem I had was that although the screen would : be on, the cursor would remain paralyzed at the top corner and : nothing that you tried to type would be processed. Now I have : moved (so the terminal went through transportation) and the cursor : doesnt appear and there is this continuous beep when you turn on the : terminal. : Thanks in advance, : Vera : (p.s. I had it sent to my university repair service before and they said that : without another keyboard they could not determine if the first : problem was in the keyboard or the main board.) A good source for Wyse terminal repair is Intelogic Trace 981 Isom Road San Antonio, Texas 78216 1-800-929-8448 You have to call first for an RMA number before you ship the terminal (800-929-8448). Their standard price to fix just about anything is $125, and about $200 if they have to replace the tube. Their turnaround time is about 2-3 weeks. I've been using them for 4 years, and the only problem I've had is once they sent me a terminal belonging to someone else. They immediately sorted it out and got me mine back and had the other one picked up at their expense. "A satisfied customer." -- David Breneman Email: daveb@jaws.engineering.dgtl.com System Administrator, Voice: 206 881-7544 Fax: 206 556-8033 Software Engineering Services Digital Systems International, Inc. Redmond, Washington, U. S. o' A. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair, comp.terminals, biz.marketplace.services.computers Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:32:11 -0500 From: depotdig Subject: 15 Years in WYSE Repairs! Are your Wyse terminals acting up? We can help! We've got 15 years experience repairing Wyse products. Low, flat rates. DEPOT DIGITAL SERVICES Questions? Call 813-881-9388 or Email us! /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet !comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix.gen.nz!pcowley!peter From: peter@pcowley.actrix.gen.nz (peter cowley) Subject: Re: Wyse 30-How to switch between AUX and MODEM Ports Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:33:16 GMT References: <365jil$m4q@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Lines: 42 GCloseAZ (gcloseaz@aol.com) wrote: : Hi, : I am the new owner of a Wyse 30 terminal (anybody have any more?) and need : to know how to switch between the AUX and MODEM ports. Specifically, I am : using the MODEM port to access a service, and I'd like to hook the other : port up to a printer. Is this easy or hard? : Thanks, : Gregory Close : email: gcloseaz@aol.com Hi Gregory, Sounds just the sort of thing the terminal was made for. All data normally goes to the modem port and can be copied to the aux port. There appears (I have not tried this but am reading from the users guide) to be two ways to do what you want. 1) Press PRINT PAGE button. This sends the screen's contents to the printer attached to the AUX port. The data is formatted exactly as shown on the screen. (Pressed with the SHIFT key, it sends formatted data to the screen.) Press COPY PRT button. Turns copy print mode on/off. (Sometimes called extension/auxiliary mode.) Pressed with the SHIFT key, it turns transparent print mode on/off. 2) ESC L or ESC p prints an unformatted page. CTRL R turns copy print mode on CTRL T turns all print modes off CTRL X turns transparent print mode on (enhance mode must be on) Hope this helps. If you want a photocopy of all the setup and control stuff then give me your postal address and I will send it to you. Cheers, Peter -- Internet : peter@pcowley.actrix.gen.nz Post : 7 Archbold Street, Newlands Wellington, NEW ZEALAND Phone : (64)(4) 477-0927 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net !Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de!fangorn!michael Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria. Message-ID: <941031945@fangorn> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:16:04 MET From: Michael Haardt <(michael)u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Tips on fixing Wyse 60 terminals I own a few of those and thought I should share what I learnt about how to fix them by now. Someone else posted a few other hints some time ago, perhaps we could merge our knowledge. The usual warnings apply: It worked for me, but I give no warranty on any advice at all. Be careful or you or your terminal may get seriously hurt! High voltage is nothing to mess with. Too dark letters ---------------- The variable resistors VR 202 and VR 401 control base brightness and dark/bright ratio. They are tiny white ones, and have the number written just next to them. DO NOT CHANGE THE BIGGER BLACK VARIABLE RESISTOR! A friend of mine did and he has a terminal less now. Different character height in different lines --------------------------------------------- The variable resistors VR 302 and VR 303 can be readjusted to fix that. You may have to try a little for best results. They are also tiny white ones, just looking like VR 202 and VR 401. The display is not straight --------------------------- This is a little difficult to fix, because you can make things worse very easy. Don't say I would not have warned you. Around the display tube are small square magnets. By turning them a little, you can fix the above problem, sometimes to be again perfect, other times only to be at least acceptable. If the pixels do not appear clear at a certain location (say the upper middle of the screen), then this may help as well. It takes some time to change this, though. Flaky display ------------- I had the display change its shape out of a sudden or disappear at all. Hitting the terminal :) fixed it for a while, but eventually it got pretty bad. The reason was a capacitor which pins were not bent down on the soldering side before soldering. The plastic material which is fixed on the soldering side of the board bent it down, and broke the soldering spot a little. Resoldering it fixed all trouble. The soldering quality of the PCB seems rather moderate to me, so probably there are other people who have terminals with bad soldering spots, too. Michael -- Twiggs and root are a wonderful tree (tm) Twiggs & root 1992 :-) d? H- s(+)/(-) g! au a- w v(---) C++(+++) UUL++++S++++?++++ L++ 3 E- N+++ tv b+ e+ h f+ m@ r++ n@ y+ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!nntp.gmd.de !news.rwth-aachen.de!fangorn.moria!michael Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria. Message-ID: <9503141975@fangorn.moria> References: <3jucln$d4b@news.primenet.com> From: Michael Haardt Subject: Re: wyse 60 questions Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 23:29:01 MET web@primenet.com (Wayne Bouchard) writes: > On this terminal are a few keys I am unfamiliar with. First is the > 'funct' key (Not F1 etc, this key is labeled 'funct') . Second, the > 'del' key in vt100 mode seems only to cause problems (is it just > me?) by preventing input from being sent out the comm port. I have a few wyse 60 with German keyboards, but they have no funct key and the del key works fine. NB: If someone needs German wyse 60 keyboards, I have a few spare ones which I would sell _really_ cheap. > On the status bar is a clock. This clock always starts at 8 am. Is > there any way to set this clock and get it to stay set when the > terminal is powered off? In wyse 60 personality, you can use ESC c hhmm to set the clock. Other than that, just switch on the terminal at 8 am. :) I don't know why they did not use a RTC. > In the keyboard menu, we have a "Wyse word" option and I don't > understand what the "labels" menu is supposed to do at all. labels I don't know off hand either, although I guess it are soft labels. Wyse Word is nice, press control-capslock to start it. Btw, the calculator has no scientific notation and the calendar lacks the julian calendar correction, but it is nice else and needs no description to be used. > The terminal will set its comm port all the way up to 38400 but if I > stick a modem up to it and try to talk to the modem at 38400, the > output tends to get garbled. My terminals do not offer RTS/CTS handshaking and even 19200 baud is flaky if you have a fast machine which sends as much as possible. 9600 never gave me trouble. > Okay, last one. This terminal's monitor, unfortunantly, has a tendancy > to squeal on occassion soon after power on. For the time being, it > goes away after a few minutes but the time is variable. I had that happen, too. After looking around for ages, it turned out that the plastic cover mounted on the soldering side of the pcb was fixed that hard, that it broke a soldering spot. Resoldering it fixed it, but you need to look very well for it. The wire on that spot was bent down some when the plastic/shielding cover was fixed at the pcb. I would not wonder if more terminals have that problem. Try hitting the terminal, that helped me for a while until one day when it decided to have been hit and cursed at enough, then later I found that soldering spot. I have heard of other hardware problems in this group, although most related to the wyse 50, which is commonly called a self-nuking device. ;-) I noticed my terminals have different firmware releases, so their menues and features differ some; don't wonder if someone tells you a menue choice not offered by your model. You may readjust the tiny white VRs, but DO NOT MESS WITH THE BIGGER BLACK ONE. We lost a terminal that way, at least we think it was related to that. Nobody wanted to try it on a second terminal. I don't have a wyse manual, but a televideo manual and the model in question can emulate a wyse 60, so I can tell you escape sequences if needed. Unfortunately, this does not tell me the wyse-specific sequences by which I can reach functions like setting the clock in vt100 mode. Btw, it is not a true vt100 emulation: It supports various functions offered by vt220. I use a vt220 termcap entry which works fine. Michael /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Date: 12 Apr 1997 22:32:26 GMT Message-ID: <5ip2hq$oco$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: How do you set the clock on WYSE terminals? In article <5iovro$eg2$1@news.si.usherb.ca>, Patrick Bernier wrote: : : I have a few WYSE terminals that I use to connect to my : Linux system as additional consoles. I've noticed that : they have a clock on the status bar. Does anyone know : how to set that clock to the correct time, other than : powering up the terminal at midnight? :) ESC c 8 hh mm Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net !news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!world!mv!usenet From: bob@erb.mv.com Subject: Re: WYSE50 Keyclick Message-ID: Nntp-Posting-Host: erb.mv.com Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 03:39:11 GMT References: <3lame9$8n9@wizard.uark.edu> Lines: 12 In <3lame9$8n9@wizard.uark.edu>, kfandre@comp.uark.edu (Kevin C. Fandre) writes: > >Does anyone know how to turn off the annoying keyclick on a Wyse 50? Hold down the left shift key, then press the enter key on the numeric keypad. If that doesn't work, then it's control-left shift, and the enter key. If that doesn't work, call me sloppy and slap me silly -- let me know and I'll figure it out. // // bob erb bob@erb.mv.com // /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!mp.cs.niu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uxh.cso.uiuc.edu!dawn Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3lvar3$hgq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3luq0b$5js@gandalf.rutgers.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: uxh.cso.uiuc.edu Keywords: wyse50 Date: 5 Apr 1995 23:58:27 GMT From: dawn@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Dawn Owens-Nicholson) Subject: Re: backspace in wyse50 beaudoin@gandalf.rutgers.edu (D. Beaudoin) writes: > > Is there some entry in termcap/terminfo that can be used to make the > backspace on a wyse50 behave as a real destructive backspace instead of > just a left arrow? (I'm using a Link MC2 terminal emulating a wyse50 and I > can't redefine the backspace key in the MC2 setup, so that's not an option.) You could, in a private termcap or terminfo entry, but you shouldn't redefine the wyse50's backspace because it is *really* your terminal settings or your Link MC2's Wyse50 emulation that is broken. First, I'd try checking your stty settings and make sure you have destructive backspaces turned on. "stty echoe" or "stty crterase" would be a good place to start, but check the man pages on your system to be sure. If that fails, I'd check your wyse50 termcap or terminfo entry (you don't say which you're using) to make sure it's set correctly ("bc=^H" should be in there, and bc= shouldn't be redefined to anything else in the entry, I've included a good [but not 100% complete due to space limits in BSD termcap] wyse50 termcap entry in another post on comp.terminals. Check for my name in other posts). You could use the include other entry option redefining only bc=, check the manpage for termcap or terminfo for details on this. If you've got the manual for your terminal, you'd be 200% better off creating a whole new entry for the native mode (don't use emulations of other terminals!). Get a copy of "termcap & terminfo" from O'Reilly & Associates. Lastly, and only in a private termcap/terminfo entry or one that is suitably marked as being LinkMC2's emulation of a Wyse50 (do *not* redefine the real wyse50 entry), you could set bc= to "^H ^H" (careful, there's a space in there). This is incredibly ugly and improper and will probably break other things, but it should work for the Unix shell. The only reason I mention this is to be complete in answering your question, but I urge you to investigate stty options first. Doing this is not only more hassle, but risky for all the other users on your system that use this termcap or terminfo entry that DON'T want destructive backspaces. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!hobbes.cc.uga.edu !news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.Gsu.EDU!gatech!udel!rochester !cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu !news.cs.umb.edu!betsys From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) Subject: Re: Anyone using WYSE terminals on Sun OS 4.1.3? Any other terminals? Date: 04 May 1995 14:00:49 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3o8qgi$fbp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: terminus.cs.umb.edu In-reply-to: urbick@cats.ucsc.edu's message of 3 May 1995 20:53:38 GMT In article <3o8qgi$fbp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> urbick@cats.ucsc.edu (Paul) writes: > >In article , >Elizabeth Schwartz wrote: >[snip] > > > > Have you used Wyse terminals on Sun OS 4.1.3 and did you have any > > problems? We're worried about VT100 emulation, > > [snip] > > I recently installed a wy55 (with ascii keyboard) on our Sparc 1000 > as the system console and had problems emulating VT100 (ansi). I was > advised by Wyse that the ascii keyboard was not compatible with VT100 > emulation and ended up emulating wy60. That's good to hear! Actually, I had a long talk with Ray at Wyse Tech Support about keyboard mapping. The issues with the VT100 mapping are that some of the keypad keys are remapped to PF keys, and some of the function keys are mapped/remapped in some way. This was of no concern to us since we don't use those keys anyway, on our Unix system. Our biggest worries were getting the ESC, CTRL, and " ~ " keys in familiar places. If the vt100 emulation works with Emacs, Pine, Elm, and lynx, with correct cursor movement and screen re-drawing, we'll be happy. thanks, Betsy -- System Administrator Internet: betsys@cs.umb.edu MACS Dept, UMass/Boston Phone : 617-287-6448 100 Morrissey Blvd Staccato signals Boston, MA 02125-3393 of constant information.... /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!emory!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net !agate!news.mindlink.net!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.rmii.com!rainbow.rmii.com !mdaymon From: mdaymon@rmii.com (Maxwell Daymon) Subject: Re: Wyse terminal - keyboard? Date: 10 May 1995 02:05:29 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3op719$cv2@natasha.rmii.com> References: <3oaa15$356@natasha.rmii.com> <3ooih5$8c2@mrnews.mro.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rainbow.rmii.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Bill Hedberg (hedberg@hannah.enet.dec.com) wrote: : In article <3oaa15$356@natasha.rmii.com>, : mdaymon@rmii.com (Maxwell Daymon) writes... : >I've got a Wyse terminal (actually, a Wyse PC, but I want to use it as a : >terminal). : >Can I make an adapter for a "normal" 6-pin DIN PC keyboard or do I need a : >Wyse keyboard? If I need a Wyse keyboard, where and how much? : Most likely, WYSE PC's use standard PC keyboards. It would be easier : and more likely to work to find a PC keyboard with a 6-pin connector. Actually, they use the same large DIN connectors as old Wyse terminals. I see them in many places (public library) and the dimensions are the same. A normal PC keyboard definately does NOT work. It's a loaded 10-pin DIN and about 1 or 2mm larger than a PC 6-pin DIN connector. :-( Looks like I'm out of luck. ------------------ Maxwell Daymon mdaymon@rmii.com ------------------ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Article 4077 of comp.terminals: Path: cs.utk.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com !howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu !news.co.intel.com!chnews!inews.intel.com!itnews.sc.intel.com!usenet From: Bennet Wong Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: Wyse terminal - keyboard? Date: 12 May 1995 20:18:26 GMT Organization: Intel - Internet Information Technologies Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3p0fqi$s6r@itnews.sc.intel.com> References: <3oaa15$356@natasha.rmii.com> <3ooih5$8c2@mrnews.mro.dec.com> If you have the old DIN connector, the only way is to get a old Wyse keyboard. The key signal between the RJ-11 style, PC style and the old Wyse DIN are all different. (I know, I use to work at Wyse). /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!jolomo From: jolomo@netcom.com (Joe Morris) Subject: Re: wyse150 info needed Message-ID: Organization: Bozo Central in Atlanta X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3pp1nj$oe3@giga.bga.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:19:49 GMT Lines: 22 Sender: jolomo@netcom20.netcom.com On 22 May 1995 03:51:15 GMT Doug Maxey wrote: > Greetings, > Have just become the proud owner of a coupla wyse150 terminals, > as surplus from a bank. > No docs, etc. > Some questions: > > 1) how do you get into setup mode? First try hitting the "Select" key in upper right corner, if that doesn't work try shift-Select > 2) if there is no setup mode, how do you set the beast to half-duplex? In setup mode screen, hit F4 for Comm, then arrow down to "Comm =" field and press the space bar till you get "Comm = HDX". Then hit F12, then space to toggle "save" to "yes" and hit F12 again. Good luck -- Joe Morris, SysAdmin and Not Insane "Honey, they're in *everybody's* eggs" --firesigns /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!willis.cis.uab.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!emory!swrinde !howland.reston.ans.net!xlink.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-ulm.de !news.belwue.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!hausutzu From: hausutzu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Utz-Uwe Haus) Subject: Re: RJ11 <-> DIN Keyobard connector ? Date: 6 Jun 1995 13:16:16 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3r1kf0$mc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <3qhsnn$3ct@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <3r0iho$3jp@mrnews.mro.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: para.cs.tu-berlin.de hedberg@hannah.enet.dec.com (Bill Hedberg) writes: [have to followup to my own article..] >In article <3qhsnn$3ct@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, hausutzu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Utz-Uwe Haus) writes... >> >>I just got two used Olivetti Terminals (WS 785, build around 1990), and >>they both don't have a keyboard :< >> >>Supposedly they understand standard PC-keyboards, but the connector is a >>4-pin RJ style one. How can I wire those 4 lines to a standard DIN connector? >> >>Or do I have to get an Olivetti - keyboard (:<)? > Try using a WYSE 60 keyboard. Thanks for the tip - I got the same one from somebody via e-mail. However, I just talked to a guy from Olivetti, and he told me, thak while most parts were built by Wyse (Wyse 120 is the one he mentioned), the keyboard used a proprietory chip, making it impossible to use the Wyse keyboard. He also told me that he sold the last one he had about 2 month back :< Anybody care to send me a leftover keyboard ? :*{ Utz -- +----------------++-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Utz-Uwe Haus || contact me via INTERNET: hausutzu@cs.tu-berlin.de | | || haus@math.tu-berlin.de | | Berlin/GERMANY || or root@pse.bln.sub.org | /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu !reuter.cse.ogi.edu!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!itnews.sc.intel.com!usenet Organization: Intel - Internet Information Technologies Message-ID: <3rqlp5$3jp@itnews.sc.intel.com> References: <3r67lu$srl@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> To: dastow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca From: Bennet Wong Subject: Re: alloy link terminal Date: 16 Jun 1995 01:12:05 GMT Link PCST/G! haven't heard that term for a long time - I am one of the original designers. Here is the bad news, you need to find a OLD Link keyboard, new Link's keyboard have a different design (WYSE) and will not work. Try to find a keyboard for the following LINK model: MC3, L125 or L220. Link is now part of Wyse Technology, I believe their old 800 number still work (1-800-HIT-LINKS). As for Alloy, last time I heard they are in very bad shape and may be a goner by this time (??) The old keyboard is kind of expensive: $70 - $100 US each, if you buy it new from Wyse/Link. Good Luck. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: cs.utk.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!emory!metro.atlanta.com !news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu !hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!orpheus From: orpheus@isca.uiowa.edu (Orpheus) Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: Wyse-60 Date: 17 Jun 1995 19:48:04 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3rvbhk$bv5@nexus.uiowa.edu> References: <3rtjcm$40h@raffles.technet.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: serial.music.uiowa.edu mchong@technet.sg (Michael Chong) writes: >We just inherited some wyse terminals with no manuals and we can't get >the terminals into setup mode. >Most of our terminals go into setup mode a la VTxxx terminals, with the >F3 key. >Any help appreciated. >Thanks in advance. >Cheers. A lot depends on which keyboard you have. If you have the new keyboard, with 16 function keys, hitting shift-Setup will get you into setup. On the PC101 keybaord, use shift-Select (upper right corner). If you have the old AT keyboard, which is really small and nifty, I think it's shift-control-tab or something. You probably want to get a new keyboard if you have the AT-style one, becuase the WY60 cannot do VT emulation with that keybaord. If you have more specific questions, or my answer wasn't clear, feel free to mail me. -- __________________________________________________________________________ --Jeffrey Dunitz (orpheus@kahless.isca.uiowa.edu) (319)354-1830 Apollo/DOMAIN System Administrator, CondoLAN /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!jobone!newsxfer.itd.umich .edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!globe.indirect.com !stu.firstsol.com!user From: sir@firstsol.com (Stu Rutkin) Subject: Re: Wyse break Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 06:26:43 -0700 Organization: 1ST SOLUTIONS, INC. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3tv6p0$3js@news.nde.state.ne.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: stu.firstsol.com In article <3tv6p0$3js@news.nde.state.ne.us>, chammack@genie.esu10.k12.ne.us (Chris Hammack) wrote: > Argh! I don't turn on the wyse for 3 weeks, and now...no picture! When > you type on the keyboard, it does the usual beeping...but no picture ever > appears...and it's not a simple resolution problem. > > It's an older wyse, I think a 60 (maybe a 50?)...any thoughts? Is it > roasted beyond general fixing or is this some wierd screen saving thing Type of terminal is shown on a plate either on the top of the base (Wyse 50's) or back of the cover (Wyse 60's and newer Wyse 50's). Sounds like the monitor/power supply (MPS) board has croaked. There are plenty of repair services around that will fix those kind of boards for less than $65 (some around $40). You'll have to pay for freight to get it there and maybe back, too. Call me--we sell Wyse terminals new and used, but I often refer people to repair places close to where they are, to minimize the freight. +1 602/997-5703. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Dealer for new Wyse-30 terminals. Monochrome ASCII terminal; includes 83-key keyboard with 4 dedicated function keys shiftable to 16. 80 column by 24 line display, 2 asynchronous RS-232 serial ports. New, no manual, 90-day warranty. DEALER: Electrified Discounters, 110 Webb Street, Hamden, CT 06517. M-F 9-7 EST. FAX: (203)777-7853. Orders to: (800)678-8585 or (203)787-4246. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Dealers in the United Kingdom that sometimes handle used Wyse equipment: WDP..................0181-464-9011 (in early 1998 sold Wyse 60s for 95 pounds) Lightning Systems....0181-866-8001 MPC Services.........0181-908-6710 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com !globe.indirect.com!stu.firstsol.com!user From: sir@firstsol.com (Stu Rutkin) Subject: Re: wyse 60 setup? Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:15:04 -0700 Organization: 1st Solutions, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: stu.firstsol.com In article , Goldarg wrote: > How do you get into and change the setup on a wyse 60, I dont have a > manual and would like to try to config this thing. > > e-mail didn't work. Depends on the type of keyboard. Try either (simultaneously) Shift-Setup or Shift-Setup-SysReq, or Shift-Select. You'll get a series of menus, starting with the top setup, a directory to the other ones. Function keys will get you through that, then arrow keys. To get out of where you are, use F10, then right arrow to Save All, then F10 again, so you don't have to do it after powering off and on. Stu R. -- stu rutkin 1st Solutions, Inc. 11460 N. Cave Creek Road #12, Phoenix, AZ 85020 602 997-5703 Fax 602 997-1688 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com !globe.indirect.com!stu.firstsol.com!user From: sir@firstsol.com (stu rutkin) Subject: Re: Link 125 help needed Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 07:13:29 -0700 Organization: 1st solutions, inc. Lines: 106 Message-ID: References: <4a60ud$5s5@crl14.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stu.firstsol.com In article <4a60ud$5s5@crl14.crl.com>, drseuss@crl.com (David Bedno) wrote: > Ok...I've got this ancient Link 125 terminal that Link/Wyse > can't help me with. The user's guide isn't available anymore. > The tech support person tried to convince me that if I put the > terminal into wy50 mode, I'd be able to use any wy50 code; Speak to Chris, Rose, or David K. at tech support. They know that terminal cold. And, they're great. 1-800/448-5465. > A) Reset terminal to factory defaults. Get to the Setup menu by simultaneously pressing Shift-Setup. Within the setup menu, push the letter "D" (for default), "S" (Save), then "E" (exit) to fully implement the factory settings. Then, go back into setup and configure the terminal how you want it. If something strange still occurs, turn the terminal off for 10 seconds, hold down the letter "G" while you power it back on and release it when you see the cursor, then default the terminal. On some of the newer terminals, this procedure re-initializes a PROM within. > B) Reset the arrow keys to defaults. If you did A) above, then change the emulation, you'll need to push the letter "F" which causes all screen attributes, c ursor and function key default values to be loaded for that emulation. > C) Program the function keys via setup mode I don't believe you can do it. > D) Program the function keys via ESC sequences To program cursor and function keys, enter the following code in the exact sequence: SHIFT ESC | p1 p2 "message" CTRL Y The vertical-bar character after the ESCape key is like a colon but is [one vertical line or perhaps two] (my keyboard doesn't have it). p1 is the "value" number of the key you want to program, p1 value codes: Key to program Unshifted code Shifted code F1 1 A F2 2 B F3 3 C F4 4 D F5 5 E F6 6 F F7 7 G F8 8 H F9 9 I F10 : J F11 ; K F12 < L F13 = M F14 > N F15 ? O F16 @ P up arrow - ) down arrow . * right arrow 0 , left arrow / + (I hope that the formatting is not lost in cyberspace.) p2 is one of the following: 1 send to the computer 2 send to the screen (local) 3 send to computer and screen (half duplex) 4 send to printer only 5 send to printer and computer only 6 send to printer and screen only 7 send ot printer, computer, and screen. The message may be up to 10 characters. This sequence will enable you to program in all modes. If you are using Wyse 50 emulation, you can program like a Wyse 50. ESC z Key Value Code, Message, DEL. The key value code for Wyse 50 is different. Unshifted, same keys to program as above, starts with @ then is A through O for the function keys; for Shifted, ` then a through o, again for the function keys only. > > Currently my down arrow key is programmed to "...|^[=", and that > just doesn't cut it. By the way, we're a Link distributor, and if you let me know an address, I'll make a copy of the manual and mail it to you. Stu R. Stu Rutkin (sir@firstsol.com) 1st Solutions, Inc. 11460 N. Cave Creek Rd. #12 Phoenix, AZ 85020 voice: +1 602/997-5703 fax: +1 602/997-1688 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!willis.cis.uab.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu !swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com !news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail Organization: Data Pro X-Posted-By: ip208.cap.primenet.com Message-ID: <30DDC1EB.6E4@primenet.com> References: <4amtmi$bdm@alterdial.UU.NET> <30D05A4D.6C49@verity.com> Date: 24 Dec 1995 14:12:02 -0700 From: Samartha Deva Subject: Re: Wyse 150 Terminals Ben Wong wrote: > > jim@jmconsult.com wrote: > > > > Looking for info on the Wyse 150 (or sucessor). > > know where I can get a programmer manual (not user manual) > > for it. WARNING: manual is thin and _very_ expensive for it's size ( $ 50 ) or so and the same size as the users manual but if you want to do anything with this terminal, you need it. WY-120/WY-150 Programmer's guide, Part # 880984-02 Rev. A was very upset and frustrated when I got the manual, still am @$%@#$%@#$! Samartha /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu !howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.dal.ca!news.nstn.ca!inforamp.net!usenet From: Blair Groves Subject: Re: Help with Wyse WY-60 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:37:32 -0500 Organization: informamp.net Message-ID: <3158B7FC.1294@canrem.com> References: John Hasler wrote: > > I would be very thankful if someone would advise me about a Wyse terminal > I am attempting to use with my Linux system. > > The data plate reads: > > Model No. WY-60 > Part No. 900109-01 > Serial No. 01311600534 > > The ROM on the board is a 27512 labeled: > > (c) Wyse Tech > 91 Rev. A > 251057-01 > > When I send 9600 baud ascii to the terminal, it displays it as expected. > When I type on the keyboard, however, the terminal sends what appear to be > scancodes. > > Here is a sample of codes sent (in hex): > > Key Label Key Press Key Release > 1 82 02 > 2 83 03 > 3 84 04 > 4 85 05 > 5 86 06 > > Is there any way to get this terminal to transmit normal ascii? > > Thank you for any help you can give. I have no data at all on this terminal. > > -- > John Hasler > jghasler@win.bright.net > N6512 110th St. > Dancing Horse Hill > Elmwood, Wisconsin 54740 John, your terminal is running the "PC Terminal" mode, whereby it does exactly as you said: it will take in ASCII and ANSI information to display to the screen, and when you press a key on the keyboard, you will get the PC scan code for that key. Best bet is to use the native mode (WY-60 mode), as it is a known standard, and termcaps are often included. -Blair Groves /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: cs.utk.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net !winternet.com!inforamp.net!usenet From: Blair Groves Subject: Re: Adapting WYSE 60 for 120V ? Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 18:00:53 -0500 Organization: informamp.net Message-ID: <3166F7A5.5706@canrem.com> References: <4ju4om$pf5@news.be.innet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts30-16.tor.istar.ca Marc wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone know if it is possible to modify 240V WYSE 60 terminals > (modelnbr WY 900109-02) for 120V ? > > Thanks ! > > Marc Most terminals (the Wyse 60 included) that are manufactured for international use can be converted by opening the case, locating the jumper that selects the voltage, and moving it from 240 to 120. The jumper in question has a large plastic handle that usually colored grey, or sometimes white or translucent plastic. Make sure that you also put the appropriate line fuse in for the voltage you are running at (ie: if the fuse was 1 ampere, when configured for 240 volts, you will probably need to replace the line fuse with a 2 ampere since the current draw will usually double). Best bet is to follow the manufacturer's instructions and if you are not sure about working on this, take it to a qualified technician. -Blair Groves /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: cs.utk.edu!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu !newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news1.halcyon.com !chinook!dagon From: dagon@chinook.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: How to enter set-up mode on Wyse 120? Date: 8 May 1996 16:44:49 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus, Inc.--Professional Internet Services Message-ID: <4mqj21$acp@news1.halcyon.com> References: <318BDD7F.764ED54B@pncl.co.uk> <4mifb3$m24@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> >Graham Burst wrote: >> >> ...I've just got 2 Wyse 120 terms with a >>promise of a manual--but until then, can anyone enlighten me as to how >>to enter set-up mode to change emulation, etc. Ben Harris wrote: > >Shift-Setup works for me. If it's in scancode keyboard mode, try CTRL-setup and ALT-setup as well. >>Any hints as to termcap >>entries for these under Unix also appreciated. >Mine seem to work resonably well using the standard vt100 settings, but in >VT100 mode their delete keys don't work and just freeze the screen. DoeS >aNyBody know of a cure for this? We use a bunch of wy150s, which use almost exactly the same termcap as the wy120. Both of them have a wy50 mode which is very serviceable EXCEPT for the stupid wyse arrow key usage (arrows send a single control character rather than a unique sequence). Depending on your flavor of Unix, you should see if there's a wy60ak or wy120ak definition, which uses the Wyse native mode, but VT-style arrow keys. I use a slightly hacked wy120ak for everything, including WordPerfect 5.1 for SCO Unix. If you'd like a copy of this, email me. -- Mark Rafn dagon@halcyon.com !G /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu !howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: croweg@usa.pipeline.com (Gary Crowe) Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: WYSE/LINK/ADDS 4 sale Date: 12 Jun 1996 15:03:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.60.7 WYSE/LINK/ADDS 4 sale We have a huge stock of these terminals, either new or refurbished, for sale. All our refurbs carry a 6-month warranty. Call 1-800-695-1951 and ask for Gary. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!news.cse.psu.edu !rutgers!news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Date: 26 Jun 1996 19:16:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <4qs2b1$28v@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: K95 wyse60 emulation soon? In article <4qrsbc$mrm@samba.rahul.net>, Clarence Dold wrote: : Robert J. Strickler (bstrickl@thrunet.net) wrote: : : We have a client that is currently using w3.1 and procomm with wyse60 : : emulation, the accounting system has been modified to generally expect the : : wyse60 and it looks to be expensive to unmodify it to a more generic vt100 : : expectation. They would like to move about 25 workstations to w95 and a 95 : : terminal emulator. K95 looks like a great fit except that it needs this : : emulation. Any estimates on the availability? : : You don't mention what kind of connection you are using. : I used MSKermit under Win95 for dialup access for a while, until I got K95. : If you need TCP/IP connectivity that would be a different story, but the : serial portion of MSK 3.14 worked fine. But MS-DOS Kermit does not include Wyse60 emulation, only Wyse50, which is different. Kermit 95 1.1.5 will emulate Wyse 30, 50, 60, and 370. -- fdc voice: +1 212 854-3703 Web: http://www.cc.columbia.edu:80/kermit/ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.databases.pick Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!cbgw1.lucent.com !cbgw3.lucent.com!news.PBI.net!super.zippo.com!zdc!www.nntp.primenet.com !nntp.primenet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net !news.gsl.net!news-feed1.globalnet.co.uk!news-feed3.globalnet.co.uk!usenet Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 22:47:42 GMT Message-ID: <327a7d36.1935525@news.globalnet.co.uk> References: <531p6m$a17@world.picksys.com> Lines: 20 From: johnj@globalnet.co.uk (John Jenkins) Subject: Re: Slave printing for wyse50 emulation On Fri, 04 Oct 1996 01:52:57 GMT, tonyg@picksys.com (Tony Gravagno) wrote: >geolin@iafrica.com (George Woodman & Linette Goddard) wrote: > > [printing through a Wyse 50] > >> I am experiencing a problem with the @(-17) function in Pick Basic. The >> 'define-terminal' definition lists the code for 'slave on' as 'DC2'. I >> changed this to 'CAN', but it does not seem to have made any difference. >> Has anybody had a similar problem. I am running AP version 5 on a 486 >> processor. Thanks in advance. > > snup snip snip snip snip..... Watch this one--many Wyse 50's do not correctly support flow control to the slave port ! By choice I would use a Wyse 60, but maybe they've fixed the firmware bug by now??? Regards John Jenkins /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!news.er.usgs.gov!jobone!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu !howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.stealth.net!uunet!in3.uu.net !208.206.176.15!dimensional.com!news.wizard.com !news.ici.net!dme Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.terminals,telrad.system Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 15:10:46 GMT Organization: PencilNet, Inc. Message-ID: <5d2apm$12s_004@news.ici.net> References: <32F44E9C.1643@tmx100.elex.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: d-ma-newbedford-42.ici.net From: david@pencilnet.com (David Ehrens) Subject: Re: Q: Power usage of monitors? We supply a fair number of terminals for various Unix multiuser applications, and we have found that configuring terminals for screen saver or "powersaver" mode is generally preferable to turning them off and on--on a daily basis. They simply seem to last longer when avoiding the shock of powering on. Wyse terminals, in particular, seem to benefit greatly from leaving them on; they seem to burn out the most of the 5 or 6 brands we sell. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!news.er.usgs.gov!jobone!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu !news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.nacamar.de !news.seicom.net!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de !news.rwth-aachen.de!fangorn.moria!michael Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria. Message-ID: <970908320@fangorn.moria> References: <827E155DF374D24A.20D66BD510F63317.6FA33D4D80CEECB3@library-proxy.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cantor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Mon, 8 Sep 97 21:41:05 MET From: Michael Haardt Subject: Re: Huge number of Wyse 60 Failures after about 1.5 years broswell@syssrc.com (Bob Roswell) writes: > For the first year or so we had a large, but manageable, number of > failures. Now , suddenly, they are showing up dead at the rate of > one or two per day! > > I don't see any power problems at the customer site, and no other > equipment is failing. > > Has anyone seen this problem? I repaired a few Wyse 60 terminals, and, from what I saw, they are broken by design. Personally, I always found screws that hold a cover are fixed in a way that soldering spots have to break. Other people complained about capacitors which have to be replaced with better ones. I don't think the customer's site is the problem. The terminals are. Michael -- d? H- s(+)/(-) g! au a- w+ v(---) C++(+++) UL++++S++++?++++ L++ 3 E- N+++ tv b+ e+ h f+ m@ r++ n@ y+ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!news.he.net!feta.direct.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca !newsfeed1-hme1!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.238.120.130!jump.net !grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <873722649.24814@dejanews.com> References: <827E155DF374D24A.20D66BD510F63317.6FA33D4D80CEECB3@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.16.245.43 (ts1-p4.min.prysm.net) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 07:51:11 -0600 From: starlle@prysm.net Subject: Re: Huge number of Wyse 60 Failures after about 1.5 years I have 6 Wyse 60 terminals that are dead also. Most of these were purchased new or refurbished about 1-2 years ago. I assumed that we were having power problems, but, after adding data line protectors, the problem continues. -- Melissa Davis Star Manufacturing /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.databases.pick Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:19:16 GMT From: Louis Popovsky Subject: Re: Basic WY60 Terminal Emulators >keygroup4@aol.com (KeyGroup4) wrote: > > Procomm Plus v3.0 has a Wyse60 emmulator with keyboard mapping > capabilities. I am not sure how much color control it offers. It should > cost about $130 US for the Windows version. > Jeff Kaufman, Key Data Systems $130 vs. $25, Thats why I keep saying try Anzio. I de-installed Procomm, it was such a behemoth. Monday I'm gonna write some Info-Basic code on our Prime so it will download some data thru an Anzio Telnet session, Fire up MS-Access, import it, and give the user a Report & Mail-Merge. Termite could do this, but I doubt if Procomm could. http://www.teleport.com/~rsi/anzioscl.html /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <6erc6f$pbo$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:04:47 GMT From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Windows Emulation for Wyse-320? In article , Peter Corcoran wrote: : : Does anyone know of freeware or GNU software for Windows-95 : which can emulate a Wyse-320 terminal? I'm not familiar with the Wyse-320 terminal. Do you mean Wyse-370? I doubt that you will find a free implementation of a terminal of this complexity. Kermit-95 provides an emulation of the Wyse-370 minus the 64K color palettes. For info look at http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <35c7792c.1286901927@news.demon.co.uk> References: <01bdb66d$b8c74700$63636363@laptop-brc> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:19:32 GMT From: Harry Broomhall Subject: Re: Wyse-50 emulation recomendations wanted On 23 Jul 1998 19:11:39 GMT, "Bill Creager" wrote: >I am about to write a program that must emulate a Wyse-50 terminal, and I >am looking for recommendations regarding the information I will need. At >this point, I do not have any consolidated information about the control >sequences. Why not buy a Wyse50 emulator? Surely it would be easier? > >I have just ordered the book, "Termcap & Terminfo". Will this book provide >sufficient detail to develop an emulator? Not at all. > If not, what additional documentation is recommended? You need the Wyse programming handbook. It also helps to have a *real* Wy-50 to hand to see where you went wrong! > My previous experience is with vt100 for >which there seems to be much more technical information on the internet, >but it is almost impossible to develop a satisfactory emulator without Dec >documentation. > >Does anyone have recommendations on where to locate a comprehensive set of >control sequences? Is there a test program similar to vttest that can be >used to validate the functionality of a Wyse-50 emulator? Any >recommendations will be greatly appreciated. The problem is that Wyse50 and similar terminals are *very* different in style from the VT100 series. I have always mentally divided terminals into two groups: 'hardware' and 'software'. Wyse-50 and Prestel belong to the 'hardware' group, and VT100 and friends to the 'software' group. In the hardware group screen effects are done almost totally with the hardware. As an example, if you set the highlight bit on *highlight is now on until the end of the screen, or the place where it is set off, whichever comes first*. This is a *totally* different concept from the VT100, where, after putting highlight on, it is on ONLY for characters subsequently *written* until switched off. Unix does not really understand such an idea, and termcap and terminfo merely hack at it a bit, which is why the book is not particularly useful on its own. You also have to deal with the tiresome 'cookie-glitch'; a product of limited hardware capabilities of the day. [early 1980s] Regards, Harry (who has written a Wyse50 emulator). /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <6pa576$je4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bdb66d$b8c74700$63636363@laptop-brc> Date: 24 Jul 1998 14:20:22 GMT From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Wyse-50 emulation recomendations wanted In article <35c7792c.1286901927@news.demon.co.uk>, Harry Broomhall wrote: : The problem is that Wyse50 and similar terminals are *very* : different in style from the VT100 series. I have always mentaly : divided terminals into two groups: 'hardware' and 'software'. This is the first time I have ever heard it described quite like that. I look at it from two different perspectives. There are text terminals which are based on the ANSI X3.64-1979 standard (replaced by ISO-6429) upon which most modern day terminals are based (VT100 and higher; SCOANSI; AT386; IBM LFT,HFT,AIXTERM; SNI; WY350 family; and most Unix consoles) and those that are not based on this standard (VT52; Wyse 30,50,60, and their decendents; HP; TVI; DG; IBM 31xx; and many others). The other dimension is defined by how are attributes implemented. They can either be VISIBLE or HIDDEN and applicable to the following CHARACTER, LINE or PAGE. A VISIBLE atteibute tkaes up a character position whereas a INVISIBLE one does not. Some terminals allow any of the six possible combinations to be used. Others limit you to just one. ANSI X3.64 terminals always use HIDDEN/CHARACTER attributes and the Wyse 50 uses VISIBLE/PAGE attributes. The Wyse 60 for example defaults to INVISIBLE/PAGE attributes but can be configured either locally or remotely to use CHARACTER or LINE attributes instead. --- When developing terminal emulators always have two things: * copies of the manufacturer's manuals * a real terminal The manual will give you a feeling for what the escape sequences are and what they are supposed to do. For an ANSI X3.64-1979 or ISO-6429-based terminal, you can implement a very simple parser that will work regardless of the things you do not know. Command sequences that you do not recognize will be absorbed and ignored, if you do it right. Non-ANSI-X3.64 terminals are not that forgiving. They are unparsable and, unless you know all of the sequences that the terminal accepts, the visual appearance of the data will be corrupted by unprocessed escape sequences. The real terminal is necessary so you can test the behavior of the terminal against your implementation and so that you determine all of the undocumented behaviors that the terminal provides. I agree with Harry that implementing a good emulator, even for simple terminals such as VT100 and WY50, is a non-trivial piece of work. Unless you are doing it as a hobby or because there is no other piece of software available that can perform the job that you need, it is significantly cheaper to just buy an emulator from someone else. Extremely good emulators can be had for a few dollars a copy in quantity and if the quantity is small the overall cost must be less than the cost of your time. See http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95pricing.html for the pricing model; for the Kermit 95 terminal emulation and file transfer product see http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <35c8a128.1297137975@news.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:08:10 GMT From: Harry Broomhall Subject: Re: Wyse-50 emulation recomendations wanted On 24 Jul 1998 14:20:22 GMT, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) wrote: >In article <35c7792c.1286901927@news.demon.co.uk>, >Harry Broomhall wrote: >: >: ...I have always mentaly >: divided terminals into two groups: 'hardware' and 'software'. > >This is the first time I have ever heard it described quite like that. Well--it *is* my own invention! (Cue the White Knight) So I don't expect to find it in the literature. > >I look at it from two different perspectives. There are text >terminals which are based on the ANSI X3.64-1979 standard (replaced by >ISO-6429) upon which most modern day terminals are based (VT100 and >higher; SCOANSI; AT386; IBM LFT,HFT,AIXTERM; SNI; WY350 family; and >most Unix consoles) and those that are not based on this standard >(VT52; Wyse 30,50,60, and their decendents; HP; TVI; DG; IBM 31xx; >and many others). This is a slightly different classification. For my purpose as a developer my classification is more useful in determining how hard an emulation is to do. This is because to do a 'hardware' terminal is *much* harder than a 'software' one. It also tends to be slower, as you have to 'extend' the attribute forwards. Note that while VT52 may not be a 'standard based' terminal it is, in my classification, a 'software' terminal, and thus not so hard to do. [SNIP] > >When developing terminal emulators always have two things: > >. copies of the manufacturer's manuals >. a real terminal Good solid advice here! Regards, Harry. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris, comp.terminals Message-ID: References: Date: 26 Aug 1998 11:06:15 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Subject: Re: WYSE Term "break" key vulnerability Fil Krohnengold writes: > > And while I'm here... > > I recently bought a Wyse terminal for a console for several servers-- > in the past I've used terminals which required a combination of keys > in order to send a break to the OS--not this one. Just one key. > Sitting out there in the open waiting for someone to put mail on it. > Any ideas how to deal with that and make it more safe? If you go into the Wyse Setup program (probably on F3), there should be an option to turn the break key off. You'll have to remember to turn it on again though when you need it. To be quite honest, if you've got servers in an environment where somebody is liable to put mail on their consoles, then you're doing something wrong--servers should be locked away so only you and your assistants can get at them! -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane dom@phmit.demon.co.uk -- Unix Systems Administrator /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris, comp.terminals Message-ID: <6s1mgo$ldt$1@tepe.tezcat.com> References: Date: 26 Aug 1998 19:09:12 GMT From: "Roger J. Allen" Subject: Re: WYSE Term "break" key vulnerability In comp.terminals Fil Krohnengold wrote: > And while I'm here... > I recently bought a Wyse terminal for a console for several servers - > in the past I've used terminals which required a combination of keys > in order to send a break to the OS - not this one. Just one key. > Sitting out there in the open waiting for someone to put mail on it. > Any ideas how to deal with that and make it more safe? Wyse terminals have about a half dozen different keyboard styles, depending on the model of terminal. Unfortunately, most vendors do not let you know which one they will ship you unless you specify the exact model that you want. If your supplier will swap, then choose a keyboard layout that best fits your application. Three different layouts are shown on: http://www.wyse.com/terminal/ Also, your Wyse manuals should list the keyboard layouts that are available for whatever model of terminal that you have. -- Roger J. Allen Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center System Administrator Chicago, IL USA Surgical Information Systems Voice: (312)-942-4825 Internet: rja@sis.rpslmc.edu FAX: (312)-733-6921 /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <6s7u4o$hst$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net> Date: 29 Aug 1998 03:56:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Subject: Re: WYSE/PC TERM Emulator? In article <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net>, TowerComm, Inc. wrote: : Has anyone out there seen or used an emulator for Wintel (DOS/Win3x/Win9x) : that emulates a WYSE 150 which is, in turn, emulating a PC TERM personality? : : Any input would be appreciated. I've got a wacky application developed by : a programmer that used some characteristics of the WYSE 150 terminal under : PC TERM that is driving me nuts - most packages I've looked at emulate WYSE : or PC TERM, but not "both at once", if you know what I am saying. That is really interesting considering the fact that PCTERM is not an emulation but a keyboard mode that may be applied to any terminal emulation. Kermit 95 supports a Wyse 60 emulation that has all of the Wyse 150 extensions. And it supports PCTERM keyboard mode. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <35EB022D.9F0AD1AA@GSC.GTE.Com> References: <6s7sj9$2em$1@cletus.bright.net> Organization: GTE Government Systems Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:06:05 GMT To: "TowerComm, Inc." From: "Scott G. Hall" Subject: Re: WYSE/PC TERM Emulator? TowerComm, Inc. wrote: > Has anyone out there seen or used an emulator for Wintel (DOS/Win3x/Win9x) > that emulates a WYSE 150 which is, in turn, emulating a PC TERM personality? { Actually Link and Altos terminals are the only other ones I saw that emulated Wyse-150 "PC Term" mode correctly -- what a hoot to see this still around... } As I posted in a previous post, try Procomm Plus for Windows. Then set the emulation to "PC Scan Codes" under the ANSI modes. What the Wy-150 in PC- Term mode is doing is sending back 8-bit codes per key that emulate the scancodes of the original IBM PC/XT keyboard and upon return, is acting like you have ANSI.COM running. { Don't laugh! This was perfect for those folks with Alloy boards that where an XT or AT on a card, and used a serial terminal in PC-Term mode as the screen and keyboard. A Wyse-99GT would even provide HGA graphics emulation with these boards (the Hercules graphics mode) } -- Scott G. Hall GTE Government Systems North Carolina Systems Center email: Scott.Hall@GSC.GTE.Com /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <361be1ba.16306079@netbsd.haeb.demon.org> References: <01bdefa0$673256c0$63636363@laptop-brc> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 21:00:47 GMT From: Harry Broomhall Subject: Re: Sending break with Wyse 50 emulator On 4 Oct 1998 14:04:02 GMT, "Bill Creager" wrote: >How is the equivalent of pressing the break key sent from a Wyse 50 >emulator? > This depends on the emulator--it should be in the docs for it. I have seen several different combinations in various packages! Regards, Harry. /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <70g3i3$lhd$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <70g2ln$7aj$1@xenon.inbe.net> Date: 19 Oct 1998 19:22:43 GMT From: Jeffrey Altman Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: Wyse-120 emulator In article <70g2ln$7aj$1@xenon.inbe.net>, Bart Vanden Driessche wrote: : Hi, : : I am looking for an emulator that turns on NT4 for a serial Wyse-120 : terminal. This terminal works with scan codes instead of ascii key codes so : most common emulators don't work. : : Does anyone knows an emulator which can handle a wyse-120 / scan code : emulation? : : Thanks. : : Bart Vanden Driessche Kermit 95 is a Wyse 60 emulator that supports most of the Wyse 120/160 extensions. And it supports the PCTERM keyboard mode that you are looking for. See http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html for details. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ 1999-01-19: In the UK, Wyse may be contacted at Wyse Technology 1 The Pavilions Ruscombe Park Twyford, Berks RG10 9NN United Kingdom Voice: +44 118 934 2200 Fax: +44 118 934 0749 On the Web, there is some support information at http://www.wyse.com/service/faq/ /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: <36E46048.5F767A09@removemepond.com> From: Michael Weiskopf Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 23:38:45 GMT From: Michael Weiskopf Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: WY60 Garbled font I am note sure but from it sounds like a U-19 chip problem. the normal symptoms are: vertical lines on screen, chracters missing pixels, "snow" all over screen. wyse claimed that only a few wyse60 (in the early '90's) were affected so i thought we had all of them :). the problem is that wyse "cold soldered" the chips onto the boards. these heat up over time deteriorate. the u-19 chip is for video display. to fix it, one just needs to apply solder to the -19 chip. while the case is off, one might want to brighten the display. they come so dim from the factory (re- gardless of the dimmer slide setting). michael Robert Norris wrote: > > Hi > > Recently received a WY60, hooked it up to my linux box, and it worked > just fine. Turned it on the other day to find that the font had been > garbled. By garbled I mean that many of the characters were not correct, > in places you could see bits of two different characters within the same > character 'cell'. > > G-reset doesn't seem to work, and I can't get the lid off to poke around > inside. Thoughts? > > Regards > > Rob. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: <36E467DE.419BC793@removemepond.com> From: Michael Weiskopf X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:11:07 GMT From: Michael Weiskopf Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: Wyse-60 keyboard mappings the wyse-60 basically has two keyboards: ascii and pc-101. the ascii has 16 function keys across the top and the pc-101 has 12 function keys. the pc-101 is just that. a standard pc keyboard with an rj-11 jack (instead of the regular din connector). there are other styles available such as dec compatible though rare. also custom configurations were available as well. the problem you described is vague but is it possible that it is related to the emulation( either on the terminal or in the os )? michael Eupsychia wrote: > > We are having problems with out Wyse-60 keyboard....i am unsure of what kind > of keyboard it is exactly. I know that it does have the Wyse logo on > it....our user is having a problem doing certain functions because the > keyboard mappings are not correct. If there is anyone out there who could > advise me as to what to do. > > Thanks, > > Toby Carver > PC/Network Technician > House of Lloyd > Grandview, MO ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <6pob5t$jr3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <35bf9c71.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 29 Jul 1998 23:27:57 GMT From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Subject: Re: Ansi Commands For Wyse 60 In article <35bf9c71.0@news1.ibm.net>, Greg Harker wrote: : Does anybody know how to either set the clock on the top of a Wyse 60 or : erase the entire line the clock is on. I am using ANSI and VT100. : There is no ANSI sequence for a VT100 to set a clock. The Wyse 370 sequence is
; , p
and are represented in ASCII digits in 24 hour format. For Wyse 60 mode try: c 8 and are represented in binary Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Organization: C.I.C. Ltd Message-ID: <35c1b80a.3867269@netbsd.haeb.demon.org> References: <35bf9c71.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:03:38 GMT From: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk (Harry Broomhall) Subject: Re: Ansi Commands For Wyse 60 On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:05:31 -0700, "Greg Harker" wrote: >Does anybody know how to either set the clock on the top of a Wyse 60 or >erase the entire line the clock is on. I am using ANSI and VT100. > Interesting. My Wyse-60 books make no mention of a clock, nor have I ever seen one! Are you sure that 1) it is a Wyse-60 or 2) the clock is not a product of the app you are using? Regards, Harry. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals References: <35bf9c71.0@news1.ibm.net> <35c1b80a.3867269@netbsd.haeb.demon.org> Organization: BOSS Internet Group Message-ID: <35c16c6b.0@news-out2.newsnerds.com> Date: 31 Jul 1998 02:04:11 -0600 From: "Travis J. McKay" Subject: Re: Ansi Commands For Wyse 60 Greg Harker wrote: > >Does anybody know how to either set the clock on the top of a Wyse 60 or >erase the entire line the clock is on. I am using ANSI and VT100. Ya, you can set the clock through the WyseWorks tools. You will discover that the clock resets at loss of power (to 8:00). Simple solution: turn it on at 8AM everyday. :) If you want to kill the clock on the status line... enter setup (on mine it is ), hit F1, and toggle the status line value. 'Extended' keeps the mode indicator and kills the clock and cursor pos. I have no manual for this one and have learned what I know through experimentation and FAQs. If anyone has a manual that they would be willing to photocopy, I would be most appreciative. Best regards, -- Travis J. McKay tmckay@3-cities.com tmckay@u.washington.edu ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <35c4fbce.6089205@netbsd.haeb.demon.org> References: <35bf9c71.0@news1.ibm.net> <35c1b80a.3867269@netbsd.haeb.demon.org> <35c16c6b.0@news-out2.newsnerds.com> <35deca65.1897519388@news.demon.co.uk> <35c28a09.0@news-out2.newsnerds.com> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 11:30:18 GMT From: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk (Harry Broomhall) Subject: Re: Ansi Commands For Wyse 60 On 31 Jul 1998 22:22:49 -0600, "Travis J. McKay" wrote: >While we are on this thread... > >Does anyone know how to set the delete key to actually act like a DEL >key? It switches to the block mode (whatever that is for, anyway it >impedes communication with the remote) and back to full duplex when >pressed. > My handbook says it transmits the 'DEL' character, and nothing about it changing modes. I don't remember having problems with using it on a Wyse 60. Are you sure that your host is not mis-interpreting it? Regards, Harry. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From: sir@s2soft.com (stu rutkin) Subject: Re: Link (Motorola) MC-5 manuals Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Organization: s2 software, inc. Newsgroups: comp.terminals X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com In article , "Richard S. Shuford" wrote: > On 18 Jun 1999 18:10:35 GMT, "Max" crl.com> wrote: > > > > I recently acquired a project of trying to integrate a bunch of > > MC-5 terminals into our data processing department.... > > What I need to find is a manual for the bloody things. > > Specially want I need to find out is how to change the default > > terminal emulation. > > Sir Max: > > Your situation is really not so bad. Link Technologies was > bought out a couple years ago by Wyse, but the MC-5 is still > advertised by Wyse as a current product. Here is a Web page: > > http://www.wyse.com/terminal/specs/mc5spec.htm > > If the Motorola variants are like a normal Link MC-5, then typing > Shift-Setup gets you to the setup menus (or Shift-Select on the > optional EPC keyboard). Then most settings are fairly obvious. > > I think you have to type an "s" to make the settings permanent. > You can type "e", I think, to exit the setup menus. (It may say > this on the bottom of the first screen, but I don't remember > precisely.) > > Stratus used to re-sell MC-5s as the V103 model terminal, which > are still in relatively wide use in Televideo-955-emulation mode. > Hi, Max, There was one other choice for entering set-up, and that is with the ANSI (20 function key) keyboard: shift -F3. What I would also suggest is entering set-up, depressing the "D" (default), saving those settings ("S"), then exiting from set-up ("E"), which will fully implement the factory settings. Then, re-enter set-up, make the changes that you need, and, as Mr. Shuford says, "S" to save, and "E" to exit. Long ago, Wyse and Link also suggested holding down the 'g' key before powering the terminal on, until you see the 'g' on the display, then default the terminal, then configure it as you need to. Holding down the 'g' re-loaded some other setting, but my memory fails me and I can't tell you why they suggested this. stu -- stu rutkin s2 software, inc. 4950 East Thomas Road Phoenix, AZ 85018 602 840-5200 fax 602 840-5700 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:51:35 +0200 Organization: Nacamar Group Plc. Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <7rqeig$1rk8$1@black.news.nacamar.net> From: Andreas Lockau Subject: Wyse Term Hi, who knows the wyse terminal 60? And can help us to change the codepage to use a special language page. We are searching for the german charakters 'ae', 'ue' and 'oe'. Thank you in advance. Andreas ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:46:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <7rqsbo$24f$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Wyse Term I'm not sure this helps but there is one escape sequence for loading internally defined character sets: ESC @ bank is 0 to 3 Set is: @ - Native mode A - Multinational (CP437) B - Standard ASCII C - Graphics 1 D - PC Equivalent E - Graphics 2 F - Graphics 3 G - Standard ANSI ` - 44-line native a - 44-line multinational b - 44-line PC c - 44-line Standard ASCII d - 44-line Standard ANSI where each set is 128 characters. @ is ASCII with line drawing in C0 A is the upper half of CP437 B is ASCII with control character descriptors in C0 C,E,F are line drawing subsets D is the lower half of CP437 (PC Graphics in C0) G is ASCII with a different set of line drawing characters in the C0 range. ESC B assigns the primary character set ESC C assigns the secondary character set The problem is that none of the above character sets contain 'oe' or 'ue'. If you were using Kermit 95 as a Wyse 60 emulator you could configure the client to use ISO-Latin1 to produce the characters you need but unfortunately, ISO Latin1 is not supported by the Wyse terminals. -- Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:37:18 GMT Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <7rr9sd$loi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> From: Mark Greene Subject: Re: Wyse Term In article <7rqeig$1rk8$1@black.news.nacamar.net>, "Andreas Lockau" wrote: > Hi, > who knows the wyse terminal 60? And can help us to change > the codepage to use a special language page. > > We are searching for the german charakters 'ae', 'ue' and 'oe'. IIRC, press shift-setup and the setup option appear at the bottom; you can scroll through the listings witht the up/down arrow keys and change values with the spacebar. Look for one labeled "Keypad", and there should be a "German" option. Also, I believe you have to have the appropriate ROM chip installed. HTH -- Mark ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// References: Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:14:43 GMT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: From: Art Rice Subject: Re: look up wyse60 esc sequence? On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:46:19 GMT, "DET" wrote: >http://www.wyse.com/service/support/kbase/wyseterm.asp Good question. Here's the numbers Screen and Cursor Display Screen display off ESC ` 8 Screen display on ESC ` 9 Screen saver off ESC e P Screen saver on ESC e Q Reverse screen ESC ^ 1 Restore normal screen ESC ^ 0 Set scrolling speed and type ESC ` scroll Scrolling Speed scroll Type (L/Sec) ---------------------------- @ Jump scroll N/A < Smooth Scroll 1 = Smooth Scroll 2 > Smooth Scroll 4 ? Smooth Scroll 8 ---------------------------- Set cursor display features ESC ` cursor Cursor cursor Display ---------------------- 0 Cursor display off 1 Cursor display on 2 Steady block cursor 3 Blinking line cursor 4 Steady line cursor 5 Blinking block cursor Cursor display off ESC ` 0 Cursor display on ESC ` 1 -- Art Rice * Special Data Processing Corporation ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:44:27 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.terminals Message-ID: <2a7d0$f30a.1c5@news.kea.bc.ca> From: Nader Behzad Subject: Re: look up wyse60 esc sequence? ESC ` 6 assign wpca (set reverse and clear other wpca) ESC ` 7 assign wpca (set dim and clear other wpca) ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Newsgroups: comp.terminals References: